gun laws should be made more strict. and that's a 14-point jump since last year. only 34% now essentially backing the status quo. how do you translate that soar of broad based openness in the capital where you and i know and everyone watching knows the nra still seems to have a lot of impact, they score these votes, not only on guns, they score the holder contempt vote, they score a lot of things and seem to move members of both parties. >> yeah. listen, i was not a big fan of -- i voted no on allowing guns in national parks. we actually had a woman who died in the northwest, backpacking and a young person thought she was an animal and shot her dead. that was an example recently of a change in my opinion in the other direction. i think instead of drawing lines right now and instead of -- you know, we had these incredible tragedies, what we immediate to do is come together and say how do we want to respond. i'm hoping if we take that approach, that -- my colleagues on both sides of the aisle will look at this and say we can do better than what we currently have. >>